Thursday, October 26, 2006

The Scoreboard - Part 5

The folks at Websleuths dedicated a thread for discussion about Loretta Serrano, which is located in a private forum known as "The Parking Lot". Loretta is a repeat offender at trying to crash that forum, but the moderators are wise to her and consequently ban her from the community each time. After reading the following dialogue from an old "Peterson" thread, which veterans say is mild compared to what was deleted, you'll know why. You may even identify who the creature with the white stripe represents in the above picture.

Edited at the special request of Loretta Serrano for a reference to the thread The Underwater Search for Laci Peterson - The Rest of the Story, which was initiated by Celestrill II:

12-18-2004, 02:24 PM - Jbean
This post tells me you are very sensitive. So,since there are no voice inflections here, I want to make sure you know I'm asking this sincerely and politely. How is it that you come by this information?

12-18-2004, 06:00 PM - Celestrill II
I just made it all up.

12-18-2004, 06:06 PM - Jbean
ohhh I guess there's something going on here to which I am naive. Thanks anyway.

12-18-2004, 06:34 PM - Celestrill II
Well, I don't mean to be flippant (ok, I do) but this is Websleuths. Sleuths being the optimal word here. It would seem rather obvious by now from where I got my information.

12-18-2004, 08:39 PM – Jbean
I guess I'm a lousy sleuth, Because I don't have a clue. Which is why I asked. But thank you for your kind post towards me. I really appreciate that. Have a nice Holiday.

12-18-2004, 07:43 PM – SieSie
JBean - don't feel bad, I don't have a clue who or what, either - but I do enjoy reading at the Misfittings site and this was a great installment that I'm anxiously waiting to finish. I'm not much of a sleuther, myself - I just read here and depend on the others who are more talented in that area.

12-18-2004, 08:41 PM – Jbean
Thanks for your kind words Sie Sie. If Celestrill's response was a taste of what I might find at Misfittings, no thanks. Insults are not my thing.

12-18-2004, 09:26 PM - Celestrill II
Obviously you did not read the article or you would know. Why you would not read it and then ask that question is either obtuse or indolent.

12-18-2004, 09:51 PM – Jbean
Celestrill, I'm not exactly sure what is happening. I'm sure you must be confusing me with someone else? Or perhaps we have different points of view on another topic and you are lashing out? I'm a respectful poster, I appreciate all different points of view. Agree or disagree, I never get personal.

Either which way, I just wondered how you came upon this information and that question has clearly offended you, which was not my intent and not how I operate. Your post extended an invitation to ask questions. I have read the article and I guess I am obtuse and indolent. I am not familiar with your work, I do not know who you are and perhaps that's where I have offended you. Good luck with your investigation.

12-18-2004, 09:58 PM - Celestrill II
Actually, that question does not offend me at all, but I am surprised that you cannot figure it out! Maybe another installment and the light bulb will go on!

12-19-2004, 12:06 AM – ostealthone
I have read Misfitting for about 20 months. Loretta is a gifted writer and seems to be a pro when it comes to narcissists and seemed to be right on when it came to the Peterson case. (I suspect she got most of her information from a former poster here at WebSleuths who is a member of law enforcement in California. That poster was very knowledgeable when she posted at WS, but had some problems with a former poster and that caused her to stop posting).

However, Loretta is tart-tongued if you disagree with her or question her in any way. "Misfit" is an appropriate adjective with which she chose to describe herself as she seems to have negative things to say about anyone who is accomplished. Her diatribes about Ken Jennings on Jeopardy, Ed Smart (father of Elizabeth Smart), and Ann Coulter - to name a few - are examples of people who have been gratuitously raked over the coals on her site. Her stories on her site of herself with regard to alcoholism and men are not very pretty. While she certainly has been an advocate for Laci, Laci is exactly the type of successful woman that Loretta and her misfits would have had fun dissing had Laci not been the victim of her monstrous husband.

Her replies to our regular posters tell you a great deal about her personality. Poster alert: Only address Loretta if you are bowing down and telling her how wonderful she is. Otherwise, get ready for a severe tongue-lashing!

12-19-2004, 11:07 AM – Celestrill II
When have I ever had anything to say about Ed Smart? Ken Jennings? We have joked about Ken, as people on here probably have, too. Ann Coulter - well, I make no apologies for disliking her, and I wrote an entire entry. GUILTY as CHARGED! The rest of your criticism is patently false and obviously inspired by a very jealous person. The only people who get severe PEN lashings are idiots, and since it's my site, I decide who are idiots. It's an idiot free zone. Unlike this place, obviously.

12-19-2004, 11:14 AM AM – Celestrill II
Totally uncalled for. I won't be back to defend myself to you. If you want to comment on my work, you can come to my place. Otherwise, take it to E-mail. I won't be answering this publicly anymore, since obviously some of you can't stand my presence. Seeya!

12-19-2004, 11:21 AM – thomasf1925
I'm trying to figure out why posters have been asked to edit their remarks on this thread when they were obviously right on the mark in their assessment? I never had much of an opinion way one or the other regarding Misfits before reading this thread. Things have changed. If I want sarcasm and name-calling - I know some middle-schoolers I can talk with.

12-19-2004, 11:24 AM – Celestrill II
No, you just don't get it, T - the posters decided to attack ME, not the work, not the research, not the factual issues, not the case. They didn't want to discuss the case, they just want to bash and criticize and vilify me. Why? What bearing does your personal or anyone's personal opinion of me (and a peripheral opinion at that) have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with the subject of this discussion? Do you have questions about the story? Do you have something constructive to add, or is this going to be a freakish cyber Pile-Up on Loretta? If so, I'm not interested.

Less than one month later on another thread...

01-07-2005, 07:23 PM – Celestrill II
Yeah, you do that! And your little minions who have crawled out from under the refrigerator can join you until the lights come back on in the morning and they scurry back to their crumbly little crevices.

01-09-2005, 11:51 PM – Celestrill II
Think you used enough stupid grins in that post? Obviously you didn't read it. Thankfully I am proud to maintain an idiot-free zone. Unlike this place.

Makes you wonder why Celestrill II didn't just stay in her "idiot-free zone"?

04-03-2005, 02:05 PM – Celestrill II
I think there is much to be said for having three categories: psychopaths, sociopaths, and malignant narcissists. All three leave a wake of destruction, but with differing degrees of violence, and with different types of victims. Psychopaths prey on strangers. Sociopaths prey on society. Narcisssits prey on their sources.


Saturday, October 21, 2006

Notice: Anne from Brazil

You are not welcome on this site!
Analyze this:

"You don't like it ONE BIT. I don't either. So, we're in the same boat, eh? You want those things to go away, quit posting about people you don't know. Leave my blog alone."
-WMD (Loretta Serrano) @10.02.06 - 4:54 pm

You're online activities are considered flagrant, excessive, extreme, outrageous, egregious, disturbing, bothersome, intrusive, profoundly ignorant, and beyond the scope of normal rational behavior. Accordingly, you have been reported to the proper authorities.

No-one understands a word you say, Anne, because you lack the necessary communication skills. Tautology is tiresome in any language. Take a tip from Celestrill 2, Anne...

"Might I remind you this is America and we are in the 21st century? Archaic and affected grammar are generally utilized by the pathologically insecure."

Anne Curi wrote:

"I’d rather prefer to be associated with Loretta and the Misfits, than being associated with sick people (really sick) like SH and venomous people like DP.

I’d rather prefer to read, post and share things with smart, funny, intelligent and witty people like Loretta and the Misfits (Deege, Grandmaboo, Nadine, Vero, Monica, Justin, Astrologer, CountryGal, Barbara, Lisa, Mgt, Vix, Moi, Karenancy, Stacey, Geralyn, Videodrone, Kez, Ponder, Mara, Sassyfrass, JoAnne, Carri and Darragh) instead of blabbing and impersonating myself as a dog with people as shallow and despicable as SF, LB or JW.

I’d rather prefer to talk about serious things and have such great moments with Loretta and the Misfits, than create myths, deface pictures and rehash old posts (Gawd, the Mutts have been rehashing “Chicken Soup for the Internet Troll’s Soul” again!?! And don’t even understand it. Talk about stupid people with NO SENSE OF HUMOUR) with people abhorrent like AS or liars like CD and VP.

I’d rather prefer to spend my free time in the “kitchen”, with Loretta and about 40 Misfits (yep, there are something around 40 or more active people in the “kitchen”) than spend hours pretending to like people untruthfull and malevolent as CM, KM and SF.

I’d rather prefer to actually “be”in the kitchen than spend hours looking for it, digging and analyzing IP’s with people revengeful, jealous and with no life like LN, GR, CV and DS.

With whom you are going to be associated? That's a big question.

Mutts, you did a great thing, though. No. Really. You did it. You brought us (Loretta and The Misfits) closer and strengthened our ties. You have no idea. And you made us stronger. For that I say: Thanks!"

Bloggers' Hall of Shame STATS
Country Brazil
Comite Gestor Da Internet No Brasil
Returning visits: 19
3 Visits = 22 hours 55 mins 18 secs
Another - 9 hours 43 mins 59 secs
Did Loretta proofread your epistle?
Never mind!
loretta 10.26.06 - 12:20 pm
Are you getting paid by the hour, Anne?
Officials guarantee the meter program is working just fine.
It appears math isn't your strong suit either, Anne.
Perhaps you simply lose track of time?

Anne Curi wrote:

Now I have to go back to my "J&J duties".
Anne 10.24.06 - 12:40 pm

So Anne, does "J&J" know about your cyberstalking activities?

Geez, Loretta, can't you come up with a more polished spokesperson than this verbose, unskilled, mundane individual? Aren't there enough dull, colorless, and obtuse people in the kitchen that would cheerfully volunteer their services without having to import one from a Sao Paulo? Could you find a representative who is endowed with a little intelligence?

I'd rather prefer you insist Anne stay close to you in the kitchen, Loretta. I suspect the lovesick girl has a poor attendance record in your tenacious grammar class.

Waving to Deege and Vero!
Mgt, I'll see you in the AM as usual!
Put the coffee on if you get here before me.
You know where it is.

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Thursday, October 19, 2006

The Scoreboard - Part 4

"He wrote something stupid, a bunch of words that say something we don't agree with. It's only words and ideas, it's not like he beat someone up, he's not committing violence or hurting people, he's simply saying something offensive that we do not want to hear because we don't like it. If we suppress ideas we don't like, the proponents of those ideas will probably fester in secret societies and explode in double-plus ungood ways and we will like those results even less. If we allow people to see their ideas, and we ignore them, they've had their chance and they don't have to feel cheated about not getting exposure. Or if we really don't like their ideas and really need to keep them from convincing other people to believe in them, the answer is to tell people why and they'll learn.

But you can't just beat people up because you dislike their stupid opinion. If we go that route, then anyone who is willing to use force can suppress any opinion they don't like, and maybe support opinions we don't like. Then what you get is a society of brutality where it isn't the best ideas that are seen by others, it's only the ideas that have the most vicious thugs to back them up. And it becomes very hard for people to be willing to express any opinion if someone can just pop them one because they say something someone else doesn't like."

- Supervisor 246 in Paul Robinson's Instrument of God.

Most folks remember when Marlene Newell required membership to the 'Talk About It' forum. The misfits infiltrated her site, called themselves 'Secret Posting Gals', smuggled comments out, prepared a newsletter that ridiculed members of TAI, and circulated the final draft to people on Loretta Serrano's 'SPG' list.
In my defense, I only stop in a couple of times a day, now. They don't know who I am and probably will never figure it out. I've managed to "stay alive" for quite some time this incarnation! Eventually I'll set off an M-80 and get banned, and then I can always get back in. They haven't invented a public forum that I can't avoid the radar, yet. -Posted by loretta at January 31, 2004 08:02 PM

Apparently, Gnarlene plans to be in court every day. Oh goody! The possibilities are overwhelming. I have to do it so I don't get caught, of course. Maybe a cream pie? Kuffs warned me about federal property and all. -Posted by loretta at May 28, 2004 07:59 PM

Cream pie? I've not done a pie 'assassination' since - well never mind, gotta check the statute of limitations on that one, but it's been quite awhile. Still have the trench coat with the special pocket though. -Posted by Videodrone at May 28, 2004 11:51 PM

Hey Video! Yes, I might have to borrow it. Good to know. Thanks. I might have to use shaving cream. That kind of smarts. -Posted by loretta at May 28, 2004 11:53 PM
Loretta, can you do anything legally with them slandering your website? I'd say you need to take The Great Plumpkin down.... but my concern is that if she reaches the ground, she'll roll away.... like the infamous meatball, rolling out the door (in that children's song)... -Posted by feistyALgal at September 2, 2004 03:24 PM

Is there a link to TAI or SII to lurk without signing up...I'm curious....does that kill the cat...sorry Vero.....does that kill the mousie? You may delete Lo if you think they will assume you are sending spies....I just want to read and get educated LOL -Posted by Grandmaboo at September 2, 2004 08:08 PM

Oh, we already have covert "members" there, Grandmaboo! How do you think I get the skinny? I can't get in there anymore, and by the time I got my DSL hooked up at work to infiltrate the campgrounds again, they closed the membership. Muwahahaha You can see the Public Site at I refuse to give her a live link. -Posted by loretta at September 2, 2004 08:10 PM

I am glancing over at the asylum. They still don't accept the computer debunking or the sea weed (kelp!)...what is the point of discussint anything with such complete knuckleheads? -Posted by loretta at September 20, 2004 10:09 PM
BtS....thanks for all of your hard work and hours of enjoyment on my part...I would look forward to the SPG's and then wait for UGal to take them apart with her sharp scalpel wit....I also loved the injected comments and asides....I will miss you. But I believe in reincarnation if one's job isn't finished! Hint Hint.... -Posted by Grandmaboo at January 26, 2005 08:37 PM

Hey, I guess I'm one of the banned and proud now, I'm locked out of the Gnarled one's new forum :o) And to beat it all, I wasn't rude, just posted the truth. She cannot handle thruth. -Posted by sassyfrass at January 26, 2005 11:10 PM

Congratulations and welcome to the Banned and Proud, Sassy: LINK Crepe suzette. Baked Alaska! (kiss on right cheek...kiss on left cheek.) Don't forget your pin. -Posted by loretta at January 26, 2005 11:13 PM

Aw shucks~ thank you, thank you very much :o) -Posted by sassyfrass at January 26, 2005 11:14 PM

If you are not ashamed of your opinion, or if you can deal with challenges to your opinion, you don't have to hide from the public, or control everyone on your board, or weed out anyone who's got a better grasp of the facts. Obviously, gnarles can't fight a fair fight. She has to rig the board and control all the rules. Nobody with any power will take her seriously. She's a joke. Her mission is a joke. Her belief in Peterson's innocence is a joke. The only thing that is dead serious is her agenda: make money off this case, come hell or high water. It's so blatantly obvious, only the totally blind cannot see it. -Posted by loretta at February 19, 2005 09:57 AM

Or, drop the holy roller stuff and become the Gruella de Ville of this case. Be the evil, dark lord. Enlist the scum of the earth to become your followers. Those who are just pure evil. They're lurking around! I know for a fact. Get the slimeballs to join your forum in droves, promise them a public audience and open the forum up like the Brain Dead thread. The prince of darkness himself might take you by the hand! -Posted by loretta at February 19, 2005 10:30 AM

From: "Loretta S."
To: (Undisclosed Recipient)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:40:47 -0400

To all on the SPG mailing list:

You have been enjoying months and months and months and months get the picture...of secret posting gal missives and, of course, the brilliant newsletters inspired by the Dibbles. Here is how you can repay the SPG for all her trouble. Send $5 a month for every month you have read the e-mails and you will be permitted to read the fallout when the SPG finally exposes her true identity.

JUST KIDDING - - HA! No - here's what you can do. JOIN TAC. If you can join there this weekend, ASAP, many of you can be in there when the SPG makes her dramatic exit. SPG is collaborating with several other people already members of TAC to see if they can be in the forum when the big announcement happens and to capture the reaction before it all goes POOF.

If you are already a member of TAC and you can send me your log-in and password for the SPG to use after the blowout, that would also help. You may think NitWit would be suddenly suspicious of a new surge in membership, but he's just not too bright. Obviously.


"Did I find humor, joy, entertainment in my participation of flogging publicly, the likes of Marlene Newell,
and any other individual that Loretta took issue with?

Yes, actually. Marlene Newell was a joke.
Be honest--you thought so, too!"

-Veronica Prior of


"The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press,

is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish."

-Robert H. Jackson


Thursday, October 05, 2006

Public Service Announcement!

We interrupt our "Scoreboard" series to bring you this late breaking development from our local affiliate According to our sources, the pound received an anonymous tip at 9:20 this morning. The text of the message reads:

"It will come as a big disappointment to you bash-blog creators (is that you again, Samantha?) when you discover that the name you are linking to everything is not my name anymore.

nanny nanny boo boo

Do you think that's effective? ROFL Please keep making bash blogs using that name. Link it all ya like. Sux to be you". -Anonymous 10.05.06 - 9:20 am #
Reactions were mixed both in Rocky River and across internet boards. Dennis Heber, from Bible Revival gathered his congregation together and warned them about the implications of the stunning news. He can be seen here straining to be heard above the groans of anguish from the crowd chanting "AGAIN?"

Mr. Heber advised citizens of Rocky River not to divulge personal information with anyone sporting new credentials. He also warned them to surf the net safely and be sure to keep their IP's and e-mail addy's close to their chests. He suggested that people change their passwords frequently as a necessary precaution.

Administrators of the pound later confirmed the message was from none other, than Loretta Serrano. Careful analysis revealed the IP originated in Lakewood, Ohio despite the use of an anonymizer:

Ohio, Lakewood, United States ip 68-110-191-86
No referring link

Loretta Marie Dillemuth Smith Tucker Smith (again) Serrano Dillon could not be reached for comment. It is unclear at this time whether her name changed to "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo", Lori Smith, or simply "Anonymous".

It appears the following domains are registered to the blog mistress:


Web Site Title: Observations of a Misfit
Registrant Contact: Loretta Serrano
3135 Berea Rd.
Cleveland, OH 44111 US

Creation date: 16 Jan 2003 15:14:59
Expiration date: 16 Jan 2008 15:14:59


Web Site Title: Observations of a Misfit
Registrant Contact: Lori Smith
+1.4402581175 Fax: +1.4402581175
3135 Berea Rd Cleveland, OH 44111 US

Creation date: 27 Jun 2006 09:26:54
Expiration date: 27 Jun 2007 09:26:54

Stay tuned for further updates!

Comments from the pound:

Gawd, she comes on here using Anonymouse, uses the name 'Anonymous', reveals she's changed her name (heh) while supposedly posting as herself. She's losing it.

-Anonymous 10.05.06 - 9:53 am

News Flash:
Loretta Serrano made a personal appearance at The Pound again today.

"I'm pretty certain that the IP of this post is Cox and that I don't have now and have never had an IP from Brazil. I'd like to see this David Copperfield move."
-loretta 10.24.06 - 12:22 pm

"Typical idiotic mutt. Estimated populatin of Brazil is 186,112,794. I guess all 186 plus million of them are nutty, according to "kennelogic."
-loretta 10.24.06 - 12:37 pm

Apparently, Loretta forgot she changed her name!
And she thinks Brazilians are nutty?